Monday 27 July 2009

Ladywell controlled parking zone

As everyone in Ladywell should now know the council is considering introducing a controlled parking zone (CPZ) in Ladywell. The CPZ would appear to have some people strongly in favour and others strongly opposed.
The council have promised that they will listen to the views of the people expressed in the consultation period so it is essential that whatever your view you return the consultation form to ensure your voice is heard.
LVIG believes that if the CPZ is introduced then it would make sense to introduce at least four free short stay parking spaces near to the shops at the southern end of Algernon road so as to allow people to park and use the shops in Ladywell. LVIG sees this as essential to support local shop keepers.
For more information on the CPZ and the consultation please visit this link where you can download the consultation document.
At the most basic level the important details are:
  1. The CPZ is slated to operate from 9am-7pm on weekdays.
  2. Residents who wish to park their car in the area must purchase a permit; these are slated to cost £60 per year.
  3. Visitor permits will be available at a cost of £1.70 per half day, £2.80 per full day and £8 per week.
  4. Pay and display parking will be priced at £1 per hour.
  5. There will be disabled bays which anyone with a blue badge can use for free.
  6. The council is considering having some bays for cars from the street car car club in the CPZ.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is a good idea. So long as there's a choice of places to park near the shops.

M said...

It's a terrible idea. £60 a year to park outside my house where I already park for free! No thanks.

Anonymous said...

Dreadful and isolationist idea - it just sets up boundaries for people and is a casual piece of Council bureaucracy, albeit voted for by the people who live in the area.

On my official response (via the leaflet) I didn't notice a closing date for people to send in their response, so I'm wondering whether it's 'legal' anyway.

Pete said...

I voted 'no'. I don't want to pay £60 to park outside my house when I don't have any problems currently. That said I know that some people are strongly in favour as they live in streets in which parking is very difficult due to commuters parking there to use the station.

I feel that if they do bring it in they really need to bring it in in the entire area as the commuters will be displaced slightly further from the station which would be annoying.

My preferred option would be no CPZ though. We'll have to wait and see though I guess...

Anonymous said...

It's a difficult one this. On the one hand, I don't need a CPZ in my road (Adelaide Ave) as there is never a problem with parking, though residents in Malyons Rd do complain about people parking there to use the station.
I have sympathy with them as I used to live in Mount Pleasant Road and found it virtually impossible to park anywhere near my house as people used the road to park there for the hospital and the mosque.
The CPZ solved all those problems, but at a cost to the residents. I didn't really mind paying the charge, but the real problems started when I became very ill and needed carers, nurses and other visitors to my home on a daily basis. This really ramped up the cost as I had to pay out a small fortune for their visitor permits over a two-year period.
If Adelaide was left out of the CPZ because residents decided they didn't need it in our street, then I'm sure there would be a knock-on effect and cars would come and park here instead. This would create a parking problem which we didn't have before!
Another issue I think is important is short-term parking for access to the local shops and businesses. This is currently very difficult and many of the businesses have think it would be a help to get them through this recession. If we could have short-stay Pay and Display on the ends of the roads that border Ladywell Road, but no other CPZ, then this would be the ideal solution for me peronally and help keep our village centre alive.

Anonymous said...

why is the proposed zone so big? I suspect it may have something to do with the financial viability of a CPZ - ie there has to be a certain number of roads to be patrolled to make it worthwhile.

Whilst those roads nears the centre of Lewisham will feel the pinch (more) in the year to come, and those residents may wish to be part of a CPZ, why not amalgamate those roads into the central Lewisham CPZ and leave the rest that have little problem with parking alone?

LVIG said...
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Anonymous said...

I agree - it is a really large area - surely not all of those roads have parking problems?
I am under the impression that it is not an all-or-nothing case with the CPZ - if enough people on particular roads vote "no" then those raods won't be included. Doesn't stop the knock-on effect happening from roads that say "yes" though.

Anonymous said...

Do we know when the results will be fed back? We received the form back in early June.

longtime Ladywell resident said...

For those of us who suffer from the blight and inconvenience of commuter parking every weekday, residents parking can't come soon enough. I am grateful the Council has listened to local pressure for a further consultation on this.

lettingfocus said...

Where we live (Algernon Rd) some kind of control on the commuters seems essential but would it not have been better to just restrict it from 12-2pm say.
That would stop the commuters who leave their cars all day (and who stop us from parking sometimes even anywhere in the street) but would because of the shorther time be less hard to enforce (and therfore maybe less cost to us as residents)

Anonymous said...

Thats a very reasonable and balanced sugggestion lettingfocus

adelaide av resident said...

This just another ploy by Lewisham Council to raise additional revenue.

Also, I would urge all residents in Adelaide Avenue to study the proposals very carefully. The Council want to introduce double yellow lines extensively. This will reduce the number of available parking spaces dramatically!! We will be in a worse senario. If the Council want to do something positive, try having a look at reducing the amount of traffic using roads as a 'rat run' as i type this, We have had a constant jam of traffic outside the house since early afternoon (it's now 19.30)!!!

Anonymous said...

If this goes ahead It cannot be reversed, yes parking Is bad but the general planning of Lewisham Town centre Is worse, this could have been avoided,
I have lived In the area since 1966 quite frankly the council has not got a clue about local needs perhaps that would change If we the people voted them out !

Algiers Road resident said...

I have lived in Algiers Road for more than 40 years and parking over the past 10 years has become an absolute nightmare here, park outside my house!, sometimes I can't even park in my road. They have had CPZ for sometime now at the far end of Algernon Road and the difference for residents there is amazing. I welcome it, the sooner the better, £60 a year,that's just £1.15p a week, Bring it on.............

Anonymous said...

As a resident of Malyons Road I cannot wait for the CPZ to arrive. Due to commuters who use the station and hospital staff parking from 7am onwards. The latter increased since CPZ was introduced to the roads around the hospital. Using my car or having visitor's is a no no Mondays to Fridays due to no parking spaces.
I welcome it ........

Algiers Road resident said...

To comment on "Anonymous 15 August 2009 - is this questionnaire legal"... I suggest that this form was just a general survey asking for residents veiws, the legal notce under the Road Traffic Reg, Act 1984 was posted on lamp posts ect in roads concerned back in June 2009, and clearly states that objections ect. should be received not later than 21 days from the date of this notice, 17th June 2009..

Anonymous said...

I have lived in Malyons Road for over 20 years and parking has become impossible Monday to Friday. At the park end where I live commuters wait to take my parking space as I go off to work. If I return during the day there is nowhere to park. Remember there are no side roads. I welcome CPZ. The sooner the better.

Algiers Road resident said...

comment on 'M' 13th August 2009.. It is not £60 a year to park ouside your house, you have no more right than anybody else to park there, it is £60 a years to park in the area.. If you can park outside your house you are one of the lucky ones... I wonder if some people are against the CPZ not because they are motorist and have to put up with this hell, but object to it out of principle

longtime Ladywell resident said...

The results of the CPZ consultation are expected to be published by the Council next week. With, my reliable sources indicate, a clear majority of respondents supporting the new zone, the decision to proceed will be taken at officer level (not by Mayor and Cabinet). It is not clear yet whether all of the streets proposed for CPZ in the consultation will, ultimately, be included - but a core area, including the remainder of Algernon Road, apparently will be. As soon as I'm aware the consultation report has been published, I'll post details here.

Pete said...

As I said on the 17th August, if it does get brought in then really all of the local streets will need to be part of it or their parking situation will become much worse than it already is.

Algiers Road resident said...

Just received a letter through the door sayng that we are NOT to get a CPZ in Algiers Road.. I hope all you wallys in Algiers Road that aposed it realise what you've done, when it comes in to the other roads in Ladywell it will make Algiers Road a nightmare, where do you think the commutors that park in say Malyons Road are going to park?.. Algiers Road that's where.. Thanks alot...